ADMIN NOTE
This post seems to have exposed a bug in my process, as I try to dodge a bug in WordPress. If this goes incoherent, just remember this is a post of ephemera.
POLLING, POLLING, POLLING
At the beginning of August polling legend Nate Silver made available an open post which I thought was interesting. Here’s a single point:
- Just to put a finer point on this, the average error in polls in presidential primaries since 2000 is around 9 points of vote margin (!), more than twice President Trump’s (in)famous polling outperformance in 2016. And polling error tends to increase the further you go down the ballot. So if it’s 9 points in a presidential primary, it might be who-knows-what in a congressional primary, but we’re probably looking at something in the double digits. Many people, including traders at prediction markets, tend to be much too crude in the heuristics they apply toward polling error, failing to recognize that polling is relatively accurate in some types of races but routinely quite inaccurate in others and that much of this is predictable. [Silver Bulletin]
Much of the rest of the post is in the context of the El-Sayed victory in the Michigan Democratic primary, including this:
- … Many of the pollsters in this race have mediocre pollster ratings, aren’t rated at all because they’re new, or aren’t used by Silver Bulletin because they don’t meet our standards for professional polling firms. There can sometimes be cases of the blind leading the blind in polling, producing a lot of herding toward a sometimes very wrong consensus. The constant, frankly often very amateurish “discourse” about polling on Twitter and elsewhere on social media doesn’t help matters either. There are fewer and fewer pollsters I trust to do their own thing, instead of being influenced by “the narrative”.
Which I might interpret as manipulation, or as pollsters overmatched in a challenging environment. Either way, it’s a cautionary tale concerning the predictions of pollsters, as I’ve noted before. Silver is far more qualified than I to pontificate on the matter.
POLLING, POLLING, POLLING, Part 2
From the right side of the spectrum comes Erick Erickson, no doubt representative of many right wing pundits, trying, I think, to reassure the Republican flock.
The Republicans are ahead in Iowa and they are already writing off Georgia and North Carolina. Look at Patrick Ruffini’s data again. “Polling error peaks at 5.9 points too Democratic sometime in late July, and doesn’t start coming down until late August, before settling into an average error of D+2.6 on election day.”
If that’s the case, and historically there is no reason to think this year is different from prior years, except for Georgia and North Carolina, the Republicans’ worst polling here at Labor Day is the high water mark for Democrat polling, and the GOP is in a very good position.
That does not mean the GOP will win. But it does mean that the GOP is in a much more solid position than a lot of the panicked prognosticators would have you believe. Sure, they can say “this time is different,” and yes, gas prices have never been this high in the run-up to an election.
Yes, those are facts from the past, and I remember being surprised at the Democratic collapse. But as financial advisors like to say, past performance is not a predictor of future performance. Yes, there are both conservative and liberal pollsters, who interpret their data to favor certain outcomes. But there are also benefits to being considered a good, disinterested pollster – and so yesterday’s liberal or conservative pollster may learn and improve, especially in an industry that appears to be on the edge of disappearance because of a lack of trustworthiness.
Erickson has a habit of dropping or misinterpreting facts, I’ve noticed. Here, I think he’s ignoring, deliberately or not, the collective GOP candidates’ vast burden of hauling the Trump narcissism along on their journey. Add in the frantic gerrymandering, Missouri being an object lesson in the consequences of abject obeisance to the wishes of Trump, and the electoral and thus polling landscape is quite different from ’24, ’22, and ’20.
POLLING, POLLING, POLLING, Part 3
In a gap I can’t recall seeing before, Quinnipiac Poll reports a big finding.
With the midterm elections less than two months away, voters give the Democratic Party an 11-point advantage over the Republican Party when it comes to who they would want to see win control of the United States House of Representatives, according to a Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pea-ack) University national poll among registered voters released today.
This lesson in stressing tenets that are not supported by American citizenry could be quite painful for Republicans.
“I support anybody with an ‘R’ behind their name.“
This has to do with the Rep Max Miller (R-OH) ongoing debacle in which Senator Moreno (R-OH), the father of Rep Miller’s former wife, has demanded that Miller resign and leave politics because of domestic abuse allegations.
For a Party that claims to represent the higher morality in this and prior elections, back to probably Reagan, the above statement is problematic. It says, especially in out of context clips, that all a rapist must do is claim to be a Republican and Rep Lisa McClain (R-MI), the source of that remark, will support them.
I rather suspect she’d like to withdraw that statement. BUT …
The National Republican Congressional Committee is coordinating new TV ad spending with Rep. Max Miller (R-Ohio) — the clearest sign yet that Republicans are panicking they could lose this House seat as Miller faces allegations of domestic abuse. [HuffPost]
Perhaps not.
The implication is that Power is the morality in this election, though, and that perception will overshadow the hard work of the GOP in removing such members as former Rep Santos (R-NY), expelled and jailed, former Rep Tony Gonzalez (R-TX), resigned under pressure for alleged sexual transgressions, and a couple of others.
The GOP might obviate this mistake by expelling yet another GOP Member of Congress, but who that might be is not at all clear. Since Senator McConnell (R-KY) is rumoured to be returning from the hospital this week, I doubt it’ll be him, and expelling him because President Trump hates him is not a good look. Perhaps it could be Trump-creature Speaker Johnson (R-LA) himself, who seems to be nearly as mendacious as the President. That is no mean feat, except that it is.
PLAYING FAVORITES
How will this affect voters?
Donald Trump’s politicization of federal disaster relief funds has become one of the most important scandals of his second term. The president could at least try to keep up appearances and make it seem as if the White House is approaching the issue in a vaguely responsible way, but with nine weeks remaining before the midterm elections, the Republican is instead leaning into his abuses.
Late Tuesday afternoon, for example, over the course of roughly an hour, he used his social media platform to announce seven disaster relief requests that he had just approved. Their similarities were hardly subtle: [Steve Benen, Maddowblog]
All the approved disaster applications cited by Benen were for States that voted Republican; three applications, from States that voted Democratic, were denied. Will this be publicized? Will it affect voters, will they resent being pushed around by someone who, frankly, does not understand how the United States operates?
Due to visibility issues inherent in the question, I doubt it’ll have any sort of measurable effect on Senate elections.
DOWN IN THE TRENCHES
Where trench foot runs rampant? Oh, the visuals….
- Unknown pollster Beacon Poll is giving incumbent Tennessee Senator Hagerty (R) a 51% – 31% lead over Marquita Bradshaw (D); of the remaining votes, truck driver David Sutman Jr (I) has a 16% share, which is not calculated on the original sample size, but those not inclined to either of the major party candidates.
- Emerson College gives Rep Hinson (R) a five point lead, 50% – 45%, over Josh Turek (D) in the race for the retiring Senator Ernst’s (R) seat in Iowa. The margin of error is ±3.6 points.Equally venerable YouGov sees the Iowa Senate seat race as a statistical tie, with Josh Turek (D) leading Rep Hinson (R) 44% – 43%. The margin of error is ±3.5 points.
- Alaska Survey Research suggests former Rep Mary Peltola (D) has a marginal lead of 50.6% – 49.4% over incumbent Senator Dan Sullivan (R) in Alaska with a margin of error of ±2.5 points. Citing an excited tweet goes against the grain, however.
- The AARP’s pollsters, FabrizioWard + Impact Research, gives James Talarico (D) a 48% – 44% lead over Ken Paxton (R) in Texas. Noteworthy:
Talarico and Paxton both have differences on their images by age
with Talarico quite positive among voters under 50 vs. narrowly
underwater among the 50+ while Paxton is slightly positive among
voters 50+ and underwater among voters under 50.
I’ll grant I’m dubious about the judgement of the youngsters and the oldsters in Texas.
The N+ Univision News/YouGov poll, which has an interesting Latino slant, also has an interesting observation:
Though Hispanic voters continue to give Democratic contenders an overall edge, the deeper story is a notable wave of second thoughts: roughly one in three Latino Trump voters now expresses doubt or outright regret over their 2024 choice, driven by administration actions, cost-of-living fatigue, and growing anxieties over racial profiling.
They give Talarico (D) a 48% – 43% lead over Paxton (R) as Latino sentiment changes. The Latinas have swung decisively to Talarico, while their male counterparts have been less likely to leave the Republican coalition.
Now if only Democrats were to discard their outdated and incorrect inclination towards identitarian politics. People are individuals these days, which may explain some of the foolishness on public, even proud, display. A good old fashioned butt-kicking of the Republicans might result in either improvement in the current base as they realize their self-indulgent choices were very poor, or replacement of the base by more moderate members.
Conservative pollster InsiderAdvantage gives Talarico a smaller lead of 47.1% – 46.6%, a statistical tie as the margin of error is ±2.83 points.
Paxton’s woes continue to accumulate with this announcement:
Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton’s former top law enforcement official endorsed Democratic state Rep. James Talarico on Tuesday in the state’s competitive U.S. Senate race. [WaPo]
Mr Maxwell reported Paxton for alleged abuse of office in concert with several colleagues, Paxton fired them – it’s like reading a bad novel composed of cliches – they sued Paxton, a judge ruled in the whistleblowers’ favor to the tune of $6 million, Paxton was impeached by the Texas House of Representatives, but the Texas Senate acquitted. It’s no surprise Mr Maxwell endorsed Talarico after that story. But – does Mr Maxwell’s endorsement matter in big ol’ Texas?
In late breaking news, 21 more GOPers, former and current, have endorsed Talarico.
Texas Democratic Senate nominee James Talarico on Thursday touted endorsements from 21 current and former Republican officials and party leaders ahead of his November faceoff against state Attorney General Ken Paxton (R).
The endorsements come from former members of Congress, Texas state lawmakers and other officials, with several citing Paxton directly as their reason for crossing party lines. [The Hill]
On another note, what do primary voters of both stripes have in common? They picked terrible candidates that are going to cost a great deal of Party money:
Senate Majority Leader John Thune (R-South Dakota) on Tuesday urged President Donald Trump and his allies to invest in the Senate race in Texas — a reliably red state where Democrats have not won a Senate seat in decades. [WaPo]
The Paxton case was predicted by a number of pundits, and it appears to be coming true. In the Talarico case, listening to him articulate his more outré positions can be an amazingly uncomfortable experience, and begins to explain why he’s not obliterating this punk Paxton in the polls. However, he is more successful at fund-raising than Paxton, so he may not be as expensive for the Party as is Paxton. This announcement may help the cause:
Democrats have not held a Senate seat in Texas in decades. But polling shows Talarico, who recently said he does not support transgender athletes playing in girls’ sports if it is not safe or fair, has a solid chance of flipping the seat for the party, and the nonpartisan Cook Political Report has rated the race as a toss-up. [The Hill]
The remark on transgender athletes may be important to many independents.
Prediction: Paxton ends up in the same category as the notorious former Rep George Santos (R-NY). The only difference might be that Paxton’s narcissistic behavior was known before he became the nominee for his desired position, and yet he still won that nomination, beating an incumbent Senator who was, and remains for a couple of more months, a member of the Senate leadership. Santos was less notorious before winning his seat, I believe. Both are failures of Republican gatekeepers.
- Senator Marshall (R) of Kansas is also Dr. Marshall, MD, an obstetrician-gynecologist, and is receiving criticism for some of his past billing practices from Democratic rival Pastor Adam Hamilton:
Adam Hamilton, a Democrat challenging Sen. Roger Marshall (R-Kansas), criticized the incumbent Tuesday over a report that he sued hundreds of patients over unpaid bills during his decades as an obstetrician-gynecologist.
The New York Times reported that Marshall had sued more than 700 patients, 81 of whom were arrested for missing court dates.
“In Washington, Roger Marshall votes to strip healthcare and raise costs,” Hamilton wrote on X. “In Kansas, he sued more than 700 patients who couldn’t afford the bill. Dozens were handcuffed and jailed.” [WaPo]
Will this affect the Senate race in Kansas? I think that depends on the strength of free market ideologies in the state vs sympathy for patients paying high prices for medical services.
In other news, Democrat Hamilton has been endorsed by former Kansas Governor Bill Graves (R):
With our nation facing increasing partisan gridlock and division, it’s time Kansas does something different. For the last six years, Sen. Roger Marshall has turned his back on Kansas. In contrast, Adam Hamilton stands as a bulwark of kindness, humility and service to others. It is for those reasons, and many more, that I believe Kansas should send Adam Hamilton to the U.S. Senate, and I am proud to endorse him. [The Kansas City Star]
I think we need another poll in Kansas.
- In New Hampshire there was some bluster concerning Democratic Socialist Karishma Manzur (D) making the Democratic primary uncomfortably close for Rep Chris Pappas (D), but the 8 September primary election dispelled the clamor, as Pappas defeated Manzur by a healthy margin of 64.6% – 33.2%. 93,111 votes were cast.In the Republican primary, as expected, former Senator John Sununu (R) easily defeated former Massachusetts Senator Scott Brown (R), 68.4% – 26.4%, and substantially fewer ballots were counted in the Republican primary, 61,882.
- In Maine SSRS conducted a poll for CNN, one of a series called the CNN/SSRS polls, which had a good reputation (2.4/3 rating) back in the FiveThirtyEight days. The poll finds Democratic nominee Troy Jackson leading incumbent Senator Collins (R) by the slim margin of 48% – 45%. The margin of error is ±3.7 points.Venerable YouGov also conducted a poll in Maine, giving Jackson a 46% – 44% lead over Senator Collins, with a largish 4.9 point margin of error. I wonder why it’s so large, as their sample size is not out of line at 1,378 registered voters. Of interest: 21% of the sample claims to be a MAGA supporter.
- Unknown pollster Elon University polled North Carolina again, finding former Gov Roy Cooper (D) has a commanding lead over Michael Whatley among both likely and registered voters. This is in contrast to the previous High Point University poll showing the race tightening. Of interest from the Elon U poll:
In this survey, 71% of registered voters said they had heard “a great deal” or “some” about Cooper, who was North Carolina governor from 2017 to 2025 and previously served 16 years as the state’s attorney general. In comparison, 47% said they had heard “a great deal” or “some” about Whatley, the former chair of the Republican National Committee and the North Carolina Republican Party. Fifteen percent said they had heard nothing at all about Whatley compared with only 4% who had heard nothing at all about Cooper.
Whatley won’t win with recognition numbers like those. But is it a failure on his team’s part or a lack of proper civics on the part of the North Carolina citizenry?
Another unknown pollster, ECU Poll, is less certain:
The latest ECU Poll of North Carolina’s upcoming U.S. Senate election, conducted August 31 through September 3, shows Democratic nominee Roy Cooper leading Republican nominee Michael Whatley, 46% to 39%, with 14% undecided and the remainder supporting a minor-party or write-in candidate. On a forced-choice measure without an undecided option, Cooper leads Whatley, 52% to 44%, with the remainder supporting a minor-party or write-in candidate. (The poll’s credibility interval, which is similar to a margin of error, is +/- 4.4 percentage points.)
ECU is East Carolina University.
- The 9 September primary elections in Rhode Island were unsurprising, as Senator Reed (D) won with 76.8% of the Democratic vote, and last man standing Raymond McKay (R), with no elective experience that I can see, won the Republican primary. Vote totals are unimportant since McKay had no opponents to bring out the voters. Still, I think Senator Reed should easily win reelection in November.
- Conservative-associated pollster InsiderAdvantage , with a mediocre-to-good 2.0/3 rating from the late FiveThirtyEight, is giving former Ohio Senator Sherrod Brown (D) a 47.3% – 41.9% lead over current Senator Jon Husted (R), with a margin of error of ±2.83 points. Given InsiderAdvantage’s right-leaning inclination, I interpret this as a clear warning to Husted to get on his horse and ride, ride, ride, or he’ll be a one-term wonder. As in, I wonder why Governor DeWine (R-OH) ever appointed him.But given President Trump’s politically tone-deaf drive to build data centers, which were mentioned as an existential weak point in the Republicans’ strategy in the last report on Ohio, Senator Husted may be left to scrabble fruitlessly at the bottom of the cliff as the rising tide of ocean water comes surging in.
- Conservative pollster InsiderAdvantage, see Ohio above, is giving Senator D. Graham (R) of South Carolina a 45.1% – 43.2% lead over Dr Annie Andrews (D) in the run to replace the late Senator L. Graham (R), which is shocking to me. For comparison, Senator L. Graham won his 2020 reelection bid by more than ten points, so seeing a trivial advantage such as this from a conservative pollster is a big warning sign to Republicans that the befalling of an unexpected disaster is threatening. The margin of error is ±2.83 points. Rep Norman (R), who suggested voters could pencil in his name in the general election, is not mentioned in the poll.Erick Erickson notes: Graham is a terrible candidate on the campaign trail.
- Florida’s incumbent Senator Moody (R), in her first election run after her appointment to Marco Rubio’s (R) old seat, holds a 50.1% – 42.7% lead over Angie Nixon (D) according to unknown pollster Quantus Insights. Nixon continues to confront a cliff to climb, but its height is uncertain.
- Lt Gov. Peggy Flanagan (D) holds a 48.2% – 44.4% lead over Michelle Tafoya in Minnesota, again according to unknown pollster Quantus Insights.
- In Michigan Click On Detroit reports on a Glengariff Group poll that gives Republican nominee former Rep Mike Rogers (R) a slight lead over Democratic nominee Abdul El-Sayed, 45.8% – 44.4%. My perception of the Glengariff Group is that they’re associated with the right side of the political spectrum. Back in late July they gave Rogers a ten point lead over El-Sayed; further back, in the FiveThirtyEight days, they had only earned a mediocre 1.5/3 rating. Add in the ±4.0 point margin of error and I’d call this a dead heat, let the bodies fall where they may.CNN/SSRS also conducted a poll in Michigan and gives El-Sayed a lead over Rogers of 47% – 44%, with a margin of error of ±4.1 points.
- Lt Gov. Peggy Flanagan (D) holds a 48.2% – 44.4% lead over Michelle Tafoya in Minnesota, again according to unknown pollster Quantus Insights.
- Next to a poll, raunchy gossip is the next best thing. Here’s that from Mississippi:
U.S. Sen. Cindy Hyde-Smith’s [(R)] latest criticism of opponent Scott Colom ([D]) in November’s election, comes in the form of a website made to look like his own.
Hyde-Smith launched ‘ColomForSenate.com’ on Sept. 9, almost exactly two months before Election Day. The website, not to be confused with Colom’s actual campaign site ‘ScottColom.com,’ was described as “[informing] voters of Scott Colom’s true platform and record,” her team wrote in a press release.
“Mississippians deserve to know who Scott Colom really is and who is behind his run for U.S. Senate,” wrote Jake Monssen, Hyde-Smith’s campaign manager. [Clarion Ledger]
Desperate to smear Colom? Or is this just sporting, Mississippi-style?
POLLING, POLLING, POST …
Yes, I noticed InsiderAdvantage’s margin of error was always 2.83 points. Is this correct? Copy error? Deliberately misleading? I don’t know.
ANY MOVEMENTS ON THE FLIP LIST?
South Carolina may have moved from undoubtedly Republican to lean Republican. If a more trustworthy pollster gives Andrew something like a lead, the sirens should go off in Columbia and Mar-a-lago.