{"id":7168,"date":"2016-12-13T18:01:15","date_gmt":"2016-12-14T00:01:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/huewhite.com\/umb\/?p=7168"},"modified":"2016-12-13T18:01:15","modified_gmt":"2016-12-14T00:01:15","slug":"arent-we-missing-a-point-here","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/huewhite.com\/umb\/2016\/12\/13\/arent-we-missing-a-point-here\/","title":{"rendered":"Aren&#8217;t We Missing A Point Here?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Steve Benen on <em><strong>MaddowBlog<\/strong><\/em> has been <a href=\"http:\/\/www.msnbc.com\/rachel-maddow-show\/trump-maintains-insanely-dangerous-feud-intelligence-agencies\" target=\"_blank\">harping<\/a> on Trump&#8217;s sharp disagreements with the CIA recently:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The news on Friday night was a bombshell: The CIA not only believes Russia interfered directly in America\u2019s presidential election, the foreign adversary did so because Vladimir Putin\u2019s government hoped to put Donald Trump in the White House.<\/p>\n<p>Trump\u2019s first instinct wasn\u2019t to deny the accuracy of the reporting, but rather, to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.msnbc.com\/rachel-maddow-show\/russian-efforts-boost-trump-campaign-jolt-political-world\">attack the CIA<\/a>: \u201cThese are the same people that said Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction.\u201d It was the latest in a lengthy series of instances in which Trump has questioned the integrity and the professionalism of U.S. intelligence agencies \u2013 a pattern that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.msnbc.com\/rachel-maddow-show\/trump-still-has-no-use-us-intelligence-agencies\">began months before<\/a> Election Day.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>But Steve never mentions that this, too, could be construed to be yet another Trump lie. As I recall, one of the tremendous Bush scandals was that the Iraq invasion&#8217;s pretext of WMDs possessed by Hussein turned out to be false &#8211; and that our intelligence agencies knew that. So I did some research, and it turns out that the CIA tried to satisfy the Administration&#8217;s desire to pin WMDs on Hussein &#8211; but couldn&#8217;t quite get there. <a href=\"https:\/\/news.vice.com\/article\/the-cia-just-declassified-the-document-that-supposedly-justified-the-iraq-invasion\" target=\"_blank\">From<\/a> Jason Leopold on <em><strong>Vice News<\/strong><\/em>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>An example of that: According to the newly declassified NIE, the intelligence community concluded that Iraq &#8220;probably has renovated a [vaccine] production plant&#8221; to manufacture biological weapons &#8220;but we are unable to determine whether [biological weapons] agent research has resumed.&#8221; The NIE also\u00a0said Hussein did not have &#8220;sufficient material&#8221; to manufacture any nuclear weapons and\u00a0&#8220;the information we have on Iraqi nuclear personnel does not appear consistent with a coherent effort to reconstitute a nuclear weapons program.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>But in an October 7, 2002\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov\/news\/releases\/2002\/10\/20021007-8.html\" target=\"_blank\">speech<\/a> in Cincinnati, Ohio, then-President\u00a0George W. Bush simply\u00a0said Iraq, &#8220;possesses and produces chemical and biological weapons&#8221; and &#8220;the evidence indicates that Iraq is reconstituting its nuclear weapons program.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"related-link\">One of the most significant\u00a0parts of the NIE revealed for the first time is the section pertaining to Iraq&#8217;s alleged links to al Qaeda. In September 2002, then-Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld claimed the US had &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2002\/09\/28\/international\/middleeast\/28QAED.html\" target=\"_blank\">bulletproof<\/a>&#8221; evidence linking Hussein&#8217;s regime to the terrorist group.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;We do have solid evidence of the presence in Iraq of al Qaeda members, including some that have been in Baghdad,&#8221; Rumsfeld said. &#8220;We have what we consider to be very reliable reporting of senior-level contacts going back a decade, and of possible chemical-\u00a0and biological-agent training.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>But the NIE said its information about a working relationship between al Qaeda and Iraq was based on\u00a0&#8220;sources of varying reliability&#8221; \u2014 like\u00a0Iraqi defectors \u2014 and it was not at all clear that Hussein had even been aware of a relationship, if in fact there were one.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>By the time Bush &amp; Co discussed the report with the public, all the qualifiers are gone and everything is definite.<\/p>\n<p>So, does Trump ring the bell yet again? In my book, keeping in mind that I&#8217;m an engineer who is forced to be precise, yes, I think so. I think Trump is hearing information from the intelligence agencies he doesn&#8217;t like, so he&#8217;s searching for an excuse to ignore them &#8211; and thinks he found it.<\/p>\n<p>UNFORTUNATELY for him, this just makes him into <strong>Donald J. Trump Bush, Jr<\/strong>. Yep, that&#8217;s right, we&#8217;ve got ourselves a Bush &amp; Cheney again, not grounded in reality, but rather in the fantasies going on in their heads.<\/p>\n<p>And the American people are the ones likely to pay for it.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Steve Benen on MaddowBlog has been harping on Trump&#8217;s sharp disagreements with the CIA recently: The news on Friday night was a bombshell: The CIA not only believes Russia interfered directly in America\u2019s presidential election, the foreign adversary did so because Vladimir Putin\u2019s government hoped to put Donald Trump in \u2026 <a class=\"continue-reading-link\" href=\"https:\/\/huewhite.com\/umb\/2016\/12\/13\/arent-we-missing-a-point-here\/\"> Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr; <\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"nf_dc_page":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-7168","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/huewhite.com\/umb\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7168","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/huewhite.com\/umb\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/huewhite.com\/umb\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/huewhite.com\/umb\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/huewhite.com\/umb\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=7168"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/huewhite.com\/umb\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7168\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":7169,"href":"https:\/\/huewhite.com\/umb\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7168\/revisions\/7169"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/huewhite.com\/umb\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=7168"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/huewhite.com\/umb\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=7168"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/huewhite.com\/umb\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=7168"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}