{"id":42697,"date":"2025-07-31T09:19:06","date_gmt":"2025-07-31T14:19:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/huewhite.com\/umb\/?p=42697"},"modified":"2025-07-31T09:19:06","modified_gmt":"2025-07-31T14:19:06","slug":"i-hope-that-cot-doesnt-put-you-to-sleep","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/huewhite.com\/umb\/2025\/07\/31\/i-hope-that-cot-doesnt-put-you-to-sleep\/","title":{"rendered":"I Hope That COT Doesn&#8217;t Put You To Sleep"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I thought this was interesting:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Sounding the alarm on growing opacity of advanced AI reasoning models.\u00a0<\/strong><em>Fortune<\/em>\u00a0reporter Beatrice Nolan\u00a0<a class=\"sc-19cc8fd2-0 iHosVH\" href=\"https:\/\/fortune.com\/2025\/07\/22\/researchers-ai-labs-google-openai-anthropic-warn-losing-ability-understand-advanced-models\/\" target=\"_self\" aria-label=\"Go to https:\/\/fortune.com\/2025\/07\/22\/researchers-ai-labs-google-openai-anthropic-warn-losing-ability-understand-advanced-models\/\">reported<\/a>\u00a0this week on a group of 40 AI researchers, including contributors from OpenAI, Google DeepMind, Meta, and Anthropic, that are sounding the alarm on the growing opacity of advanced AI reasoning models. In a new paper, the authors urge developers to prioritize research into \u201cchain-of-thought\u201d (CoT) processes, which provide a rare window into how AI systems make decisions. They are warning that as models become more advanced, this visibility could vanish.<em> [<a href=\"https:\/\/fortune.com\/2025\/07\/22\/eric-xings-uae-abu-dhabi-project-ai-power\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Fortune<\/strong><\/a>]<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<div id=\"attachment_42699\" style=\"width: 203px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/huewhite.com\/umb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/PXL_20250421_225924721.jpg?ssl=1\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-42699\" class=\"wp-image-42699\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/huewhite.com\/umb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/PXL_20250421_225924721.jpg?resize=193%2C168&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"193\" height=\"168\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/huewhite.com\/umb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/PXL_20250421_225924721.jpg?w=1858&amp;ssl=1 1858w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/huewhite.com\/umb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/PXL_20250421_225924721.jpg?resize=300%2C261&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/huewhite.com\/umb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/PXL_20250421_225924721.jpg?resize=1024%2C890&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/huewhite.com\/umb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/PXL_20250421_225924721.jpg?resize=768%2C667&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/huewhite.com\/umb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/PXL_20250421_225924721.jpg?resize=1536%2C1334&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/huewhite.com\/umb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/PXL_20250421_225924721.jpg?resize=150%2C130&amp;ssl=1 150w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/huewhite.com\/umb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/PXL_20250421_225924721.jpg?resize=173%2C150&amp;ssl=1 173w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/huewhite.com\/umb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/PXL_20250421_225924721.jpg?w=1600&amp;ssl=1 1600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 193px) 100vw, 193px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-42699\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><em>Which is us, which is them? And who is more delicious?<\/em><\/p><\/div>\n<p>So, is Machine Learning (ML) that much like how humans reason? Mind you<sup><a href=\"#1\">[1]<\/a><\/sup>, there&#8217;s <em>formal reasoning<\/em>, which is difficult and deeply dependent on in-depth understanding context and reality, which in realistic situations is almost impossible; <em>informal reasoning<\/em>, not guaranteed to lead to correct conclusions but much easier and less dependent on context as much of it is heuristics; and <em>intuitive reasoning<\/em>, the <em>I just know<\/em> that is so often bloodily wrong &#8211; but has you running from the tiger just because that fern flapped in the breezeless afternoon.<\/p>\n<p>So, if Elon Musk&#8217;s worst nightmare arrives, that of the super-intelligent actual AI system, can we understand its thought processes? Or will its reasoning function in such a different manner from the above that we&#8217;ll stare at the COT and consider it gibberish?<\/p>\n<p>Hard to say. The fact I can&#8217;t imagine another way to reason doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s not possible, it only means I&#8217;m not imaginative. Or, as with calculus, I&#8217;m not trying hard enough.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><a name=\"1\"><\/a><sup>1<\/sup> And I&#8217;m pulling this out of my ass from observation, not from study of psychology, which I always find a frustrating experience.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I thought this was interesting: Sounding the alarm on growing opacity of advanced AI reasoning models.\u00a0Fortune\u00a0reporter Beatrice Nolan\u00a0reported\u00a0this week on a group of 40 AI researchers, including contributors from OpenAI, Google DeepMind, Meta, and Anthropic, that are sounding the alarm on the growing opacity of advanced AI reasoning models. 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