{"id":3301,"date":"2016-03-20T17:50:18","date_gmt":"2016-03-20T22:50:18","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/huewhite.com\/umb\/?p=3301"},"modified":"2016-03-20T17:50:18","modified_gmt":"2016-03-20T22:50:18","slug":"how-important-are-the-caucus-numbers","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/huewhite.com\/umb\/2016\/03\/20\/how-important-are-the-caucus-numbers\/","title":{"rendered":"How Important are the caucus numbers?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em><strong>WorldPress.org<\/strong><\/em> relays a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.worldpress.org\/article.cfm\/clinton-vs-trump-general-election\" target=\"_blank\">worry<\/a> from across the Atlantic:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>United Kingdom \u2013 The Guardian, March 5: Barring an unforeseen disaster on either side, Clinton and Trump are now on a collision course for the presidential election on 8 November 2016. The bombastic, swaggering, sometimes vulgar billionaire has stunned the political world, plunged the Republican Party into civil war and, among the pundit class, relegated the prospect of the 240-year-old republic\u2019s first female president to a footnote. \u2026 The outside world, overjoyed by the election of America\u2019s first black president just eight years ago, is asking: how did it come to this? \u2026One chilling statistic for Clinton stands out: more than 8 million voters took part in the Republican Super Tuesday contests, while the Democratic turnout was around 5.5 million. \u2026 Clinton is compared to Bill Clinton and Barack Obama; Trump is compared to everyone from Benito Mussolini to Juan Per\u00f3n to Silvio Berlusconi.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Harry Enten\u00a0@ <em><strong>FiveThirtyEight<\/strong><\/em>\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/fivethirtyeight.com\/features\/primary-turnout-means-nothing-for-the-general-election\/\" target=\"_blank\">addressed<\/a> this worry a couple of days ago:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>But Democrats shouldn\u2019t worry. Republicans shouldn\u2019t celebrate. As <a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/news\/monkey-cage\/wp\/2016\/03\/15\/will-record-republican-turnout-in-the-primaries-translate-into-a-trump-win-in-november-probably-not-heres-why\/\">others<\/a>\u00a0have <a href=\"http:\/\/www.realclearpolitics.com\/articles\/2012\/02\/01\/how_much_does_voter_turnout_matter_112990.html\">pointed out<\/a>, voter turnout is an indication of the competitiveness of a primary contest, <i>not<\/i> of what will happen in the general election. The GOP presidential primary is more competitive than the Democratic race.<\/p>\n<p>Indeed, history suggests that there is no relationship between primary turnout and the general election outcome. You can see this on the most basic level by looking at raw turnout in years in which both parties had competitive primaries. There have been six of those years in the modern era: 1976, 1980, 1988, 1992, 2000 and 2008.<\/p>\n<section class=\"viz\">\n<table class=\"viz full\" data-carpenter-slug=\"enten.primaryturnout.1\">\n<thead>\n<tr>\n<th class=\"upper\" colspan=\"3\"><\/th>\n<th class=\"upper upper-text\" colspan=\"2\">PARTY WITH HIGHER PRIMARY TURNOUT WINS \u2026<\/th>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<th class=\"no-parent number\" colspan=\"1\">YEAR<\/th>\n<th class=\"no-parent heat number\" colspan=\"1\">DEMOCRATIC<\/th>\n<th class=\"no-parent heat number\" colspan=\"1\">REPUBLICAN<\/th>\n<th class=\"boolean\" colspan=\"1\">POPULAR VOTE<\/th>\n<th class=\"boolean\" colspan=\"1\">ELECTORAL COLLEGE<\/th>\n<\/tr>\n<\/thead>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"number\">1976<\/td>\n<td class=\"heat number\">16.1m<\/td>\n<td class=\"heat number\">10.4m<\/td>\n<td class=\"boolean\">\u2713<\/td>\n<td class=\"boolean\">\u2713<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"number\">1980<\/td>\n<td class=\"heat number\">18.7<\/td>\n<td class=\"heat number\">12.7<\/td>\n<td class=\"boolean\"><\/td>\n<td class=\"boolean\"><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"number\">1988<\/td>\n<td class=\"heat number\">23.0<\/td>\n<td class=\"heat number\">12.2<\/td>\n<td class=\"boolean\"><\/td>\n<td class=\"boolean\"><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"number\">1992<\/td>\n<td class=\"heat number\">20.2<\/td>\n<td class=\"heat number\">12.7<\/td>\n<td class=\"boolean\">\u2713<\/td>\n<td class=\"boolean\">\u2713<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"number\">2000<\/td>\n<td class=\"heat number\">14.0<\/td>\n<td class=\"heat number\">17.2<\/td>\n<td class=\"boolean\"><\/td>\n<td class=\"boolean\">\u2713<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"number\">2008<\/td>\n<td class=\"heat number\">37.2<\/td>\n<td class=\"heat number\">20.8<\/td>\n<td class=\"boolean\">\u2713<\/td>\n<td class=\"boolean\">\u2713<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<caption>Primary turnout isn\u2019t related to the general election outcome<\/caption>\n<\/table>\n<footer class=\"viz\">\n<p class=\"source\">SOURCE: POLITIFACT<\/p>\n<\/footer>\n<\/section>\n<p>As first <a href=\"http:\/\/www.politifact.com\/punditfact\/statements\/2016\/mar\/06\/david-brooks\/david-brooks-said-primary-turnout-doesnt-predict-g\/\">written up by PolitiFact<\/a>, the party that had higher turnout in the primary won the national popular vote three times and lost three times. If you look at the Electoral College, the party that had the higher turnout in the primary won four times. That can hardly be described as predictive.<sup>1<\/sup><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The article covers more such questions in loving detail &#8211; each indicating primary turnout is not predictive. Back to the WorldPress.org viewpoint collection, another entry makes a possibly telling point:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><b>France \u2013 <i>France 24,<\/i> March 2:<\/b> Senior Republicans are running out of options in their race to stop the Donald Trump bandwagon. Whether or not they succeed, the battle is likely to prove costly for the Grand Old Party. \u2026 Josh Kraushaar, a political editor at the <i>National Journal<\/i>\u2026 noted that while Trump\u2019s poll ratings are on the upswing, surveys also show that a quarter of the Republican electorate \u201cwon\u2019t vote for him under any circumstances,\u201d while some would even cross over to the Democrats, provided they pick a moderate like Clinton. \u2026 \u201cThe emerging scenario in Washington is that the Republicans are going to take this to a contested convention,\u201d Kraushaar said, suggesting an ugly showdown between the pro- and anti-Trump camps was a likely outcome. \u201cIf Trump doesn\u2019t come out as the nominee his supporters are going to be furious, but if he does then you have about a quarter of Republicans who won\u2019t vote for him,\u201d he said, describing the conundrum as a \u201cno-win situation.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>And this could have down-ballot consequences as well. The real question, assuming the Republicans lose the election and the Senate, is whether or not the loss will\u00a0have real consequences for those who&#8217;ve fomented this revolution &#8211; or if they&#8217;ll continue to be respected members of a conservative side of the United States that&#8217;s acting as if it&#8217;s out of control &#8211; or deeply over-controlled.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><sup>1<\/sup><a href=\"http:\/\/www.msnbc.com\/rachel-maddow-show\/gop-turnout-way-2016-will-it-matter\" target=\"_blank\">H\/T<\/a> Steve Benen @ <em><strong>MaddowBlog<\/strong><\/em>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>WorldPress.org relays a worry from across the Atlantic: United Kingdom \u2013 The Guardian, March 5: Barring an unforeseen disaster on either side, Clinton and Trump are now on a collision course for the presidential election on 8 November 2016. The bombastic, swaggering, sometimes vulgar billionaire has stunned the political world, \u2026 <a class=\"continue-reading-link\" href=\"https:\/\/huewhite.com\/umb\/2016\/03\/20\/how-important-are-the-caucus-numbers\/\"> Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr; <\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"nf_dc_page":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3301","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/huewhite.com\/umb\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3301","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/huewhite.com\/umb\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/huewhite.com\/umb\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/huewhite.com\/umb\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/huewhite.com\/umb\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3301"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/huewhite.com\/umb\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3301\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":3302,"href":"https:\/\/huewhite.com\/umb\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3301\/revisions\/3302"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/huewhite.com\/umb\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3301"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/huewhite.com\/umb\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3301"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/huewhite.com\/umb\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3301"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}